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  <title>Episode 30: How the Hard Can Also Be Good with Lisa Whittle</title>
  <description>Lisa Whittle is the author of eight books and a sought-after Bible teacher. A pastor’s daughter and longtime ministry leader in issues relevant to the church, Lisa is the founder of Ministry Strong and the popular Jesus over Everything podcast, which debuted in the top twenty-five Christian podcasts. Her love runs deep to see people pursue Jesus for life, grow deep roots of faith, and walk strong in the midst of a world that so often seems to have gone crazy. Lisa has done master’s work in marriage and family counseling, is the cofounder of Called Creatives, and has been featured on numerous media outlets through the years. She and her family live in North Carolina. Mentioned in this episode:  Philippians 3:10  The Hard Good  The Imitation of Christ &amp;amp;nbsp;by Thomas a Kempis   Connect with Lisa here: Website Instagram Facebook Connect with Ruth here: Website Instagram&amp;amp;nbsp; Facebook &amp;amp;nbsp; Connect with Pat here: Website Facebook&amp;amp;nbsp;  Instagram&amp;amp;nbsp; Please share Rootlike Faith with your friends! This podcast is produced and edited by Angie Elkins Media, Inc.&amp;amp;nbsp;           </description>
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