1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 This episode is like being on a long car ride with two loud friends (Kate and Laura) who won't shut up about the journey. They yell a bit about how designers make everything into a much bigger deal than users really want or care about.&amp;nbsp; Drink pairing: Anything out of a hip flask What is Wrong with UX https://www.usersknow.com/podcast/ <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/19219769/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/473aa9/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/103906808