1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 In this conversation with author Judith Schwartz and scientist Walter Jehne, we discuss the importance of the shift from seeing the Earth as a resource base to seeing ourselves as enmeshed in a web of life that both manages and depends on natural processes.&amp;nbsp; In particular, we focus on how this perspective shift affects how we understand and are empowered to address anthropogenic climate change. Judy: &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;https://www.judithdschwartz.com/ Walter: &amp;nbsp;https://www.regenerate-earth.org/ The banjo bird jam in the intro and outro was recorded in the woods by nature artist Michael DiGiorgio.&amp;nbsp; If you'd like to order a CD of this album he says to email him at the contact on his website,&amp;nbsp; mdigiorgio.com, where you can also find his exquisite nature art. Muse Ecology http://museecology.com <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/18852770/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/87A93A/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/101692256