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  <title>That's How We Roll: Season 03, Episode 03 - The Meta-Industry Show</title>
  <description>In this episode, Fred and Chris discuss; Metatopia, what's interesting about Metatopia as a convention, the area the podcast is focused on, and trying to nail down a definition for what the Hobby Industry is exactly.

Show Notes
Peter Adkison
Shannon Appelcline - Designers and Dragons
Metatopia&amp;amp;nbsp;(Rob's take on Metatopia)
Divine Cow
Double Exposure (Dreamation, Dex Con, Metatopia)
Vincent (Vinny) Salzillo
Metatopia has innovative pricing. $20 for playtesters, $50 for designers.
Darren Watts
Indie Press Revolution (I.P.R.)
Ken Hite
Jennisodes (Recording of Ken Hite's design seminar.)
Kickstarter Bulletpoints from Metatopia
Joshua A.C. Newman
Shock
Elevator Pitching Basics
Elevator Pitching Advanced (Pitch why you do, how you do, then what you do.)
Deadly Fredly: Foot in the Door (Article about how to enter the hobby industry.)
Don't Rest your Head
Transparency
(Fantasy) Heartbreakers</description>
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