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  <title>Talking about Race and Whiteness with Dr. Lisa Martin and Cyndi Carnaghi-Collins</title>
  <description>The murder of George Floyd sparked protests and pushed America into having a long overdue conversation about race, power, and privilege. Today, Dr. Lisa Martin and Cyndi Carnaghi-Collins, both antiracism trainers and therapists, talk to us about how these protests and these conversations can help us to begin to change and heal our broken society.</description>
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