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  <title>Rory Sutherland: Human Behavior, Innovation, and Alchemy (EP.16)</title>
  <description>In this episode of Infinite Loops we spoke with Rory Sutherland, Author of Alchemy: The Dark Art and Curious Science of Creating Magic in Brands, Business, and Life, and Vice-Chairman of Ogilvy Group UK. We discuss:  The relationship between marketing and innovation. Human psychology and behavioral economics. The importance of framing. “Stated” preferences and “Revealed” preferences  Follow Rory on Twitter (https://twitter.com/rorysutherland) and check out his books here (https://www.amazon.com/Rory-Sutherland/e/B07L3WRSWM?ref_=dbs_p_ebk_r00_abau_000000) </description>
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