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  <title>Debbie and Ben Conroy [Woodworkers]</title>
  <description>Debbie and Ben Conroy join us &amp;amp;nbsp;[EP 141] and discuss standing out in a crowded space of creatives, getting past the fear of not succeeding, and why they want to be around other champions. Enjoy! Show Notes: 4:13 - What was the inspiration for the shift to woodworking.&amp;amp;nbsp; 7:31 - Using social media to spread the word.&amp;amp;nbsp; 10:15 - &amp;quot;Don't be afraid to fail ... &amp;quot; 14:55 - Why they love woodworking.&amp;amp;nbsp; 17:15 - &amp;quot;Not being recognized in a crowded space of creatives ... &amp;quot; 18:36 - How both Debbie &amp;amp;amp; Ben are fighting through the fear of not succeeding.&amp;amp;nbsp; 25:00 - Losing Debbie's dad. &amp;quot;From the darkness, we saw the light ... &amp;quot; 34:58 - &amp;quot;I need a new tool ... &amp;quot; 35:57 - &amp;quot;Be around champions ... &amp;quot; 38:44 - &amp;quot;Don't sweat the small stuff... &amp;quot; How to reach Debbie &amp;amp;amp; Ben: Website | Instagram | Facebook&amp;amp;nbsp; Book Recommendations: &amp;quot;Talking to Strangers&amp;quot; by Malcolm Gladwell Podcast Recommendations: Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend&amp;amp;nbsp; Armchair Expert&amp;amp;nbsp; </description>
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