1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 This week's episode is with former rapper and novelist Mutlu Ergün who is currently an anti-racist trainer, travelling across Germany. Usually with his brother, he runs People of Colour empowerment workshops, and anti-racist trainings for white people, in which he aims to gently, lovingly, separate white Germans from their whiteness, making them aware of their own racisms. It's a spiritual approach to racism that we very rarely hear, and Multu is an expert.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Links below are to the Phoenix, the anti-racist organisation Multu works for, and to his novel: https://www.phoenix-ev.org/en/index.html https://www.amazon.de/Kara-G%C3%BCnl%C3%BCk-geheimen-Tageb%C3%BCcher-Sesperado/dp/3897716003 Blissful Thinking http://www.rajeevbalasubramanyam.com <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/14238539/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/item/14238539