1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 Jared Janes&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;Jason Snyder talk with Joe Brewer about the impact of conceptuality on perception &amp;amp; embodiment, the impossibility of understanding planetary collapse &amp;amp; what that means, getting lost in abstraction &amp;amp; duality, personal &amp;amp; ecological trauma, making &amp;amp; breaking conceptual frames, cancerous human thinking, the invisible regenerative revolution, the dynamics of coercion, top-down vs bottom-up regeneration, ecological succession, sustainable life-systems, acting bioregionally, and more! In&amp;nbsp;this Episode of&amp;nbsp;Both/And Cargo Cults Dr. Zachary Stein The Century of the Self Joanna Macy Twitter Questions Donella Meadows' Leverage Points Paper Joe's Earth Regenerator Group Support Both/And by&amp;nbsp;becoming a patron&amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;/or&amp;nbsp;subscribing &amp;amp; reviewing us on iTunes Both/And http://www.bothand.info <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/13333892/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/item/13333892