{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"952: Jennifer Ma: The Path isn\u2019t Always Straight and That\u2019s OK","description":"         Today With Jennifer Ma: Today, on A Well-Designed Business, I am joined by Jennifer Ma of Dwell &amp;amp; Oak Interior Design Studio. Before she became an interior designer, Jennifer was a competitive swimmer, a chef, and a nursing student. She also worked in luxury beauty marketing and owned a kickboxing franchise. Jennifer put her heart and soul into each venture, and took away valuable experiences that have helped her business thrive. She believes that with determination, you can pivot your career toward the lifestyle you've always envisioned. Listen now to hear her inspiring story. Pick It Apart: [1:46] Jennifer talks about her winding path from competitive swimming to culinary school and nursing school, along with the lessons each venture brought her. [8:21] As Jennifer discusses what she makes time for in her business during downtime, LuAnn asks if she allows time for self-care. [15:35] Jennifer shares an emotional story of learning resilience. [21:39] Jennifer explains how the Good Guy Clause helped when she closed her fitness business. [27:03] LuAnn and Jennifer discuss going viral on Instagram, and Jennifer shares her best advice for getting more engagement. [42:04] Jennifer recounts how she learned the importance of client experience from her kickboxing business. LuAnn Nigara and Jennifer Ma's Ah-Ha Moments &amp;nbsp;\u201cIf I really, really don\u2019t feel it in my heart and in my gut, that it\u2019s okay to quit something after you\u2019ve tried and put everything into it.\u201d \u2013 Jennifer Ma &amp;nbsp; \u201cWhat you put out there is what you're going to receive back.\u201d \u2013 Jennifer Ma &amp;nbsp; \u201cThe fact that you can pull a very tangible life lesson out of each is, I think, the only way we get through things like this. It's the only way we get up in the morning and are willing to face the next possibly difficult thing that we have no idea that\u2019s coming at us.\u201d \u2013 LuAnn Nigara \u201cYou have to show up for yourself, and you can do it. There is no straight path to your fulfilling career.\u201d \u2013 Jennifer Ma \u201cThe difference between success by intention and success by accident or success eluding us is that review\u2014that consistent, constant review\u2026each time you\u2019re going through a phase of life.\u201d \u2013 LuAnn Nigara More About Jennifer Ma &amp;nbsp;After moving into a brand new build home in San Diego, Jennifer started an Instagram account to document her love for customizing and decorating her home. Jennifer's goal was simple: Create a space that was inspired, beautiful, &amp;amp; that her family loved to be in. As Jennifer's online readership grew, so did her requests for interior design projects. Soon, she was being asked to design spaces--and entire homes--by online fans &amp;amp; followers from across the country. With that, Dwell &amp;amp; Oak was born; a full-scale design company grounded in Jen's firm belief that a home must be both beautiful and comfortable. In the years prior to launching her design company, Jennifer had already built and owned a thriving kickboxing franchise business from the ground up after being 12 years in luxury beauty marketing in NYC. Her success came from her commitment to excellence and appreciation for the client experience. This same talent, attention to detail, and entrepreneurial &quot;can do&quot; attitude has all helped her interior design business grow. Today, Jennifer remains committed to creating beautiful spaces that celebrate family, foster togetherness &amp;amp; connection, and are designed for everyday living.   Connect with Jennifer Ma   Website   Instagram&amp;nbsp;   Pinterest What\u2019s new with LuAnn Nigara LuAnn University - Registration is now OPEN for the Winter 2024 semester! Watch the Docuseries! http:\/\/www.luannnigara.com\/cob Get The Goodies! For checklists, resources, and extra goodies from A Well-Designed Business sign up for free&amp;nbsp;here. 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Purchase LuAnn\u2019s Books Here: Book 1:&amp;nbsp;The Making of A Well \u2013 Designed Business: Turn Inspiration into Action Audiobook:&amp;nbsp;The Making of A Well \u2013 Designed Business: Turn Inspiration into Action Book 2:&amp;nbsp;A Well-Designed Business \u2013 The Power Talk Friday Experts Book 3:&amp;nbsp;A Well-Designed Business \u2013 The Power Talk Friday Experts Volume 2 Connect with LuAnn Nigara LuAnn\u2019s&amp;nbsp;Website LuAnn\u2019s&amp;nbsp;Blog Power Talk Friday Like Us:&amp;nbsp;Facebook&amp;nbsp;| Tweet Us:&amp;nbsp;Twitter&amp;nbsp;| Follow Us:&amp;nbsp;Instagram&amp;nbsp;| Listen Here:&amp;nbsp;Podcast Other Shows Mentioned:   AWDB #006: Identifying Your Transferable Skills with Erika Ward    AWDB #203: Darla Powell \u2013 How to Launch an Interior Design Firm    AWDB #291: Cheryl Luckett \u2013 From Side Hustle to Full Time Interior Design    AWDB #433: Nate Berkus: Introducing His Collection with Kravet    AWDB #463: Sara Lynn Brennan: Package Your Design Services for Profit and Clarity   AWDB #786: Meredith Huck: From Corporate to Interior Design Business: 3 Insights to Succeed  &amp;nbsp;   AWDB #811: Power Talk Friday: Heather Hansen: You Are Your Own Advocate  &amp;nbsp;   AWDB #677: Megan Molten: To Succeed, Focus on Your Why  &amp;nbsp;   AWDB #455: Megan Molten: Planning Creates Success in Your Interior Design Business          ","author_name":"A Well-Designed Business\u00ae | Interior Design  Business Podcast","author_url":"https:\/\/luannnigara.com\/a-well-designed-business","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/29708098\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/559541\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/166992653"}